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i never got any money from you

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ufo might just as well stand for

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unprecedented financial opportunity

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and this is the saucer life a podcast in

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which we examine concepts events or

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people orbiting the world of flying

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saucers few preconceptions snark when

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justified no belief no debunking today

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we're going to look at an often

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requested but somewhat daunting topic

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gulf breeze the sightings and this will

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be followed next time by gulf breeze

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aftermath and abductions why two parts

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because there's a lot

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a lot a lot way more than i figured and

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i didn't want to shortchange anything

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interesting now making this a two-parter

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is a last-minute change to the structure

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of the episode so we will see how it

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goes this is either going to be

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a a brilliant piece of decision making

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or it's going to be something where i

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end up with a 20-minute episode followed

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90-minute episode which would be a bit

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unbalanced but

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page or wherever you're playing this and

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know how long this episode is as i sit

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recording this introduction i have no

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so just in case you didn't know the gulf

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breeze sightings were a series of

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sightings and photographs of sightings

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panhandle not far from pensacola small

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into early 1988 and we're going to be

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looking at the gulf breeze sightings

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very much the story of ed and francis

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true saucer live fashion i'm not going

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sightings or on their photos i'll be

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social media but i'm not here to declare

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to tell you the story based on the

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worse for me the most interesting aspect

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walters encounters how they reacted

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them and their story and and the fallout

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from that and that's why uh this is

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proof i rushed back into my office and

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sight and an unforgettable experience

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houses below it and three times as high

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central between the large black squares

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that look like windows were small

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camera i couldn't move them they were

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blue i was blue everything was blue i

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was in a blue light beam the blue beam

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me from moving i screamed with my mouth

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that i was dying i was trying to breathe

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dying my brain was being squeezed and

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of my eye socket no air i needed air

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panicky i tried to suck in air

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the best i can tell this all took less

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the ground i screamed a voice groaned in

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we will not harm you

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the deep computer-like voice said calm

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i screamed as well as i could put me

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a few seconds passed by as i slowly rose

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away from the pavement a dream hell no

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this was real the feeling of

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helplessness was the worst no control

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just a piercing smell a little scent of

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ammonia mixed with heavy cinnamon that

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scorched then stuck to the back of my

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my heart was pumping so hard i could

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feel its throb as it thumped against my

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unmoving chest i could feel the thumping

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vibration passed down my legs

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the voice groaned stop it i screamed

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screw you

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all this happened fast now i was about

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two feet above the street i panted for

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air but the smell stung my lungs my

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the aliens let's just call him that the

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aliens let ed go he drops down a couple

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tells her what has been going on she's

277
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concerned he wants to

278
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share this with other people to find out

279
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if anybody else saw what he saw

280
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experience what he experienced but he's

281
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concerned about whether or not he will

282
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be ridiculed he's a figure in the

283
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community it's gulf breeze is a small

284
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place five six thousand people at the

285
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time i believe and it uh he was he was a

286
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prominent home builder you know it's

287
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it's difficult to put yourself out there

288
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in this kind of

289
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situation

290
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but in the end ed decides to send the

291
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photos to the press writing out a letter

292
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signed mr x now the plan is for ed to

293
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take the photos to a guy named duane

294
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cook editor of the local newspaper the

295
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gulf breeze sentinel it was a weekly

296
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newspaper and say that this mysterious

297
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mr x had asked ed to submit the photos

298
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and the letter and the plan was

299
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basically hoping that no one suspected

300
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that ed was the person who had the ufo

301
00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:11,360
sighting that ed was in reality mr x

302
00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:13,120
now the photos and letter were published

303
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in the november 19 1987 edition of the

304
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to whom it may concern

305
00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:25,839
on the night of november 11th i took the

306
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pictures you now see before you i was

307
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reluctant at first to show them to

308
00:11:33,509 --> 00:11:31,279
anyone but my family but my wife

309
00:11:34,790 --> 00:11:33,519
convinced me to show them to ed ed in

310
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turn said that the photos should be

311
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shown to the press this is why he is

312
00:11:40,389 --> 00:11:38,320
presenting them to you there was nothing

313
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colorful about it no flashing lights no

314
00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:42,240
beams coming from it none of that star

315
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wars stuff it was just a dull gray blue

316
00:11:48,870 --> 00:11:47,040
thing i don't think that was military

317
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but you may want to check it was quite

318
00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:50,320
big and i don't think i was alone in

319
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seeing it i wish to remain anonymous but

320
00:11:55,350 --> 00:11:54,079
if these photos and stories spark any

321
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interest from your readership i may

322
00:11:59,350 --> 00:11:57,680
identify myself i'm a prominent citizen

323
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of the community and need anonymity at

324
00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:01,440
this time i know what i saw and would

325
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feel much better if i knew i was not

326
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alone

327
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let me reassure you this is not a hoax i

328
00:12:09,590 --> 00:12:07,600
saw what i saw took pictures of it and

329
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have given these pictures to you i wish

330
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i could come forward but cannot for

331
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while i have nothing to gain i have

332
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everything to lose thank you for your

333
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time and understanding

334
00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:21,519
what i emitted from this letter was just

335
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the the description of how the craft

336
00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:25,360
looked and moved some of the details

337
00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:27,360
that that i shared earlier from the

338
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excerpt from the book i think it's

339
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interesting what

340
00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:32,560
ed walters did not discuss he did not

341
00:12:36,710 --> 00:12:34,320
discuss the smell he did not he

342
00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:36,720
explicitly said there was no beam there

343
00:12:42,470 --> 00:12:40,320
was no color whereas it was bluish gray

344
00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:42,480
before and there was a blue beam and a

345
00:12:48,470 --> 00:12:44,720
voice he cuts that stuff out he's trying

346
00:12:51,269 --> 00:12:48,480
to make it a bit more credible trying to

347
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see perhaps what other people say before

348
00:12:55,350 --> 00:12:53,760
he says things that make him sound

349
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really kind of

350
00:13:00,550 --> 00:12:58,079
out there now the sentinel

351
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had an editorial comment following the

352
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these polaroid photos were taken from

353
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the front yard of a gulf breeze

354
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residents wednesday evening november

355
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11th if anyone saw it or knows any

356
00:13:17,269 --> 00:13:14,320
information regarding this please

357
00:13:20,230 --> 00:13:17,279
contact the sentinel

358
00:13:22,629 --> 00:13:20,240
the day after the mr x letter appears in

359
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the gulf breeze sentinel on november

360
00:13:28,069 --> 00:13:24,800
19th so on note that was november 19th

361
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so the next day november 20th ed has his

362
00:13:32,629 --> 00:13:29,920
second sighting this time he has sort of

363
00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:32,639
a precursor event he hears this hum

364
00:13:37,509 --> 00:13:35,120
inside his head and sometimes it's it's

365
00:13:40,150 --> 00:13:37,519
soft sometimes it's louder sometimes

366
00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:40,160
it's overwhelming and to the point where

367
00:13:45,430 --> 00:13:42,560
his family his wife and his his teenage

368
00:13:47,189 --> 00:13:45,440
kids are concerned about them the hum

369
00:13:49,189 --> 00:13:47,199
would come the hum would go he goes out

370
00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:49,199
to the pool he thinks it might be the

371
00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:52,000
the pool pump he doesn't know what it

372
00:13:55,350 --> 00:13:53,040
might be

373
00:13:57,990 --> 00:13:55,360
then later in the afternoon about five

374
00:13:59,990 --> 00:13:58,000
o'clock again so in november even in

375
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florida getting a little darker a little

376
00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:03,199
more towards twilight he's hearing the

377
00:14:08,550 --> 00:14:06,160
but the hum his his breathing is is

378
00:14:10,870 --> 00:14:08,560
heavy he's sweating

379
00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:10,880
all over his body and he shouts i hear

380
00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:13,920
you you bastard i know you're there and

381
00:14:17,509 --> 00:14:15,600
and this is something we saw this with

382
00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:17,519
the screw you comment earlier during the

383
00:14:21,269 --> 00:14:18,800
first sighting

384
00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:21,279
ed kind of presents himself as kind of a

385
00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:24,160
tough guy in the face of whatever these

386
00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:26,959
things are then he hears a voice which

387
00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:29,279
is saying words in a language that he

388
00:14:33,350 --> 00:14:31,760
thinks is an earth language but he

389
00:14:34,790 --> 00:14:33,360
doesn't understand he says it sounds

390
00:14:36,470 --> 00:14:34,800
kind of african

391
00:14:38,470 --> 00:14:36,480
but then when he's outside and he's

392
00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:38,480
shouting at the aliens

393
00:14:46,949 --> 00:14:44,629
be calm step forward said the forceful

394
00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:46,959
voice i raised the camera following the

395
00:14:50,949 --> 00:14:49,519
downward path of the ufo

396
00:14:52,790 --> 00:14:50,959
don't do that

397
00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:52,800
another voice definitely a female voice

398
00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:54,959
that sounded distorted please don't do

399
00:15:00,069 --> 00:14:55,920
that

400
00:15:02,470 --> 00:15:00,079
another voice in spanish las photos

401
00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:02,480
the female voice you can't expose them

402
00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:05,199
they won't hurt you just a few tests

403
00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:06,560
that's all

404
00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:08,480
right if i want to be examined i'll let

405
00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:10,720
you know i shot picture number six as

406
00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:12,560
the ufo suddenly stopped its fall and

407
00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:14,399
hung there frozen just beyond the power

408
00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:16,240
pole at the front of my yard

409
00:15:20,150 --> 00:15:18,160
somehow i could hear them talking to me

410
00:15:22,230 --> 00:15:20,160
just as if we were all on the telephone

411
00:15:24,389 --> 00:15:22,240
all the voices were deep garbled and

412
00:15:26,069 --> 00:15:24,399
somewhat computer-like whether they were

413
00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:26,079
actually hearing me or just reading my

414
00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:27,600
mind i don't know

415
00:15:31,910 --> 00:15:29,600
the ufo shot over to my right almost

416
00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:31,920
like a hummingbird and hovered there it

417
00:15:35,829 --> 00:15:33,519
seemed to be spinning from left to right

418
00:15:37,749 --> 00:15:35,839
but very slowly ever so slightly it

419
00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:37,759
would tilt toward me and then away which

420
00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:39,440
i noticed because the big power light at

421
00:15:43,990 --> 00:15:41,680
the bottom grew larger and smaller

422
00:15:46,310 --> 00:15:44,000
the craft lit itself up and was bright

423
00:15:47,749 --> 00:15:46,320
it was so bright in fact i still can't

424
00:15:49,269 --> 00:15:47,759
believe someone else didn't see it

425
00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:49,279
hovering there

426
00:15:55,030 --> 00:15:52,480
the ufo voice said step forward we will

427
00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:55,040
bring you aboard no way what gives you

428
00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:56,720
the right to suck people up into your

429
00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:58,800
ship against their will

430
00:16:01,990 --> 00:16:00,480
we have the right

431
00:16:04,069 --> 00:16:02,000
i remember thinking that the being was

432
00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:04,079
talking to me as if i were an animal

433
00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:07,440
here rover sit rover what a good rover

434
00:16:12,069 --> 00:16:10,079
click i took shot number eight

435
00:16:14,230 --> 00:16:12,079
the female voice you must do what they

436
00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:14,240
say they haven't heard us and we are

437
00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:16,160
going back home now

438
00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:18,079
now visions blasted into my brain of

439
00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:20,160
naked women these were not drawings of

440
00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:22,560
naked women but actual naked women flash

441
00:16:27,910 --> 00:16:24,399
after flash each lasting about five

442
00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:27,920
seconds big women little women fat black

443
00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:29,600
white women from every race and every

444
00:16:33,590 --> 00:16:32,160
age there were even pregnant women if

445
00:16:36,230 --> 00:16:33,600
this was meant to encourage me to come

446
00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:36,240
aboard it didn't work i stayed right

447
00:16:42,629 --> 00:16:40,629
ed acknowledges that this sighting was

448
00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:42,639
much more frightening than the first one

449
00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:44,480
but he keeps taking pictures he takes

450
00:16:48,949 --> 00:16:46,560
several pictures so that the threats

451
00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:48,959
from the aliens seem

452
00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:50,560
a little hollow

453
00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:52,800
eventually again they

454
00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:55,199
go away the voices leave his head the

455
00:16:58,389 --> 00:16:57,120
humming leaves his head he tells his

456
00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:58,399
wife what happened

457
00:17:03,269 --> 00:17:01,680
and he he decides that he needs to take

458
00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:03,279
some precautions because they said

459
00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:06,079
they're going to come back for him so he

460
00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:08,959
loads his 32 caliber pistol he loads his

461
00:17:13,829 --> 00:17:11,280
22 caliber rifle he says if i'd had a

462
00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:13,839
machine gun i'd have loaded that too

463
00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:15,919
so he's got a shotgun he's got his

464
00:17:20,549 --> 00:17:18,640
pistol he's got a rifle he begins to

465
00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:20,559
carry the shotgun in his pickup truck

466
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:22,799
behind the seat um

467
00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:25,280
he's he's ready for them if they come

468
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:26,720
get him and then

469
00:17:31,669 --> 00:17:29,440
soon after this in the next issue of the

470
00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:31,679
gulf breeze sentinel we start to see

471
00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:32,559
some

472
00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:35,200
indication that ed walters was not the

473
00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:38,080
only one seeing strange things in the

474
00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:40,080
sky one of the witnesses who shared his

475
00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:41,440
experience was a man named charles

476
00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:44,000
somersby who was a former editor of the

477
00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:46,080
gulf breeze sentinel so that carried

478
00:17:54,070 --> 00:17:52,070
it was just a few minutes after sunset

479
00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:54,080
on veterans day and wife dari and i were

480
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,760
just finishing up our evening walk along

481
00:17:59,510 --> 00:17:57,520
hickory shores boulevard in the midway

482
00:18:01,190 --> 00:17:59,520
area we looked out over east bay to

483
00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:01,200
admire the cloud formations when our

484
00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:03,360
attention was drawn to a round object

485
00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:05,039
moving in a southwest direction toward

486
00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:07,280
downtown gulf breeze there were bright

487
00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:08,880
lights around the bottom another at the

488
00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:10,880
top none of the lights were colored or

489
00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:13,280
flashing our thought it's not an

490
00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:16,320
airplane not a helicopter not a bird

491
00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:17,679
what is it

492
00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:19,280
movement of the unidentified flying

493
00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:21,760
object was steady no hesitation and no

494
00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:23,600
apparent change of course

495
00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:25,039
watched the local news on television

496
00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:26,000
that evening and looked through the

497
00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:27,440
morning paper to see if anyone had

498
00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:29,600
reported the apparition when it appeared

499
00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:30,880
no one else had been looking up at the

500
00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:32,559
sky at that moment we forgot about the

501
00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:34,240
incident until the pictures appeared in

502
00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:36,720
last week's sentinel unfortunately

503
00:18:39,909 --> 00:18:38,000
didn't have a loaded camera or

504
00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:39,919
binoculars with us at the time of the

505
00:18:43,669 --> 00:18:42,080
sighting

506
00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:43,679
summersby wasn't the only one who had

507
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:45,600
seen things an article by joe turner and

508
00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:47,840
allison brown in that issue of the gulf

509
00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:49,520
breeze sentinel detailed other sightings

510
00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:50,960
that happened on the 11th when ed

511
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:53,440
walters had his first one and when the

512
00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:56,880
summersby saw their craft on november

513
00:19:00,950 --> 00:18:58,799
11th around eight in the morning jeff

514
00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:00,960
thompson of gulf breeze said he saw a

515
00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:03,760
flying object from tiger point bay over

516
00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:06,000
oriole beach school thompson was taking

517
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:07,360
the sun to school at the time saw the

518
00:19:11,270 --> 00:19:09,200
object shoot up from the right at an

519
00:19:15,270 --> 00:19:11,280
angle suddenly stop

520
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:15,280
hold there for 30 to 45 seconds and then

521
00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:18,000
sort of took off at a high rate of speed

522
00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:20,240
now it had the same window type

523
00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:23,440
formations as the photo but it did not

524
00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:26,559
have the brightly lit bottom portion

525
00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:29,280
so that is uh that is a big difference

526
00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:32,960
thompson also said that after the ufo

527
00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:35,840
sped away two jets were chasing the

528
00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:36,960
object

529
00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:38,559
another witness

530
00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:41,200
around the same time as walters had his

531
00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:45,679
sighting about 5 30 to 6 30 pm was linda

532
00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:48,720
lube of gulf breeze she witnessed a type

533
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:50,960
of light she says moving very slowly

534
00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:53,520
across the sky southeast toward gulf

535
00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:55,919
breeze she watched it for about 15

536
00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:57,919
minutes while outside cooking she said i

537
00:20:01,430 --> 00:20:00,000
had a feeling it was from another place

538
00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:01,440
i didn't have my glasses on so i

539
00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:03,120
couldn't see the form but i could tell

540
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:05,440
i've never seen anything like it she

541
00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:08,000
expressed her feelings as quote almost a

542
00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:09,280
premonition

543
00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:10,720
and then when she saw the sentinel less

544
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:13,039
than a week later she said she felt that

545
00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:16,400
same unexplainable inner feeling

546
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:18,000
now the article also said that the

547
00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:20,480
florida chapter of mufon the mutual ufo

548
00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:22,559
network would be sending investigators

549
00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:24,880
to talk to the witnesses and to gather

550
00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:27,600
information about the sightings now on

551
00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:29,360
december 2nd

552
00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:31,919
speaking of sightings ed walters had his

553
00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:35,120
third encounter with whatever it was and

554
00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:37,360
like previous encounters there was a

555
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:40,799
kind of precursor event this time it

556
00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:42,880
wasn't necessarily a hum it was hearing

557
00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:44,559
voices talking

558
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:47,440
in spanish and hearing a baby crying and

559
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:54,630
female voice

560
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:56,480
she wants some milk

561
00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:58,240
male voice if they don't give us

562
00:21:01,669 --> 00:21:00,320
something of them bananas i'll hush

563
00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:01,679
they'll hear you

564
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:04,320
but why do they just eat bananas

565
00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:05,760
i know this sounds bizarre and i was

566
00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,679
tempted not to tell it but bananas are

567
00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:09,520
what they were talking about i lived in

568
00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:11,280
central america for about five years and

569
00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:13,120
speak spanish to a modest degree

570
00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:15,600
although i can understand it even better

571
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,470
i'm not sure about the spelling but it

572
00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:22,480
translates to a slang version of son of

573
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:24,159
a i mentioned this because i

574
00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:25,280
remember hearing it in parts of

575
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:27,679
nicaragua and costa rica maybe the voice

576
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:30,559
is home son of a look at all those

577
00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:32,000
maybe 20

578
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,360
what's happening

579
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:35,520
i saw them like that last night

580
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:37,039
the chiefs said they were taking on

581
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:38,640
power fuel

582
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:40,400
the baby was still crying by now of

583
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:42,640
course i was wide awake sweat soaked my

584
00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:44,640
back and rolled down my underarms i was

585
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:47,039
afraid to move and afraid not to i knew

586
00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:49,200
the ufo was there but did they know i

587
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:51,679
could hear them

588
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:53,760
if it seems a little confusing that's

589
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:57,120
because it is it kind of jumps around a

590
00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:58,559
little bit it's it's a it's a very

591
00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:00,400
strange story you get a sense in the way

592
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:01,919
that he tells it

593
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:04,480
he's sort of conveying the uh sort of

594
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:06,720
disorientation he's feeling in the face

595
00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:09,039
of some of this some of this strange

596
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:10,559
stuff so he's trying to figure out what

597
00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:12,400
to do should he call the police

598
00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:14,640
should he look for wherever the voices

599
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:16,400
are coming from that's what he wants to

600
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:19,600
do he tries to grab the the pistol in

601
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:21,200
the nightstand he's gonna creep around

602
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:23,600
looking for them his wife says no she's

603
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:26,000
not gonna do that she's gonna gonna help

604
00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:28,240
him so there they are they're they're

605
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:31,919
crawling around and then the hum begins

606
00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:35,280
the voices stop the hum begins

607
00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:37,679
they go to the door out they look out

608
00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:40,559
the door towards the pool

609
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:42,799
they go outside

610
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:46,080
they start to panic because the ufo

611
00:22:53,909 --> 00:22:51,510
i still had the gun in my hand i tried

612
00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:53,919
to be rational to think no shooting not

613
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,640
yet

614
00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:56,880
maybe we can talk maybe not they have a

615
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:58,559
super craft they have telepathy and all

616
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:01,200
that but advanced culture i doubted it

617
00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:03,200
advanced culture should be civilized

618
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:05,280
maybe try some manners perhaps please

619
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,360
may i suck you up into our craft no you

620
00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,840
may not okay thank you anyway and they'd

621
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,120
leave you alone

622
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:13,440
not these guys they didn't bother to ask

623
00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:15,200
they just did what they pleased i

624
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,880
cracked the door again

625
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:18,720
the ufo stopped

626
00:23:24,149 --> 00:23:22,320
the ufo voice ordered step forward now

627
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:24,159
not in this life i muttered as i took

628
00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:26,159
the polaroid camera from the breakfast

629
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,400
bar

630
00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:30,720
feeling a bit emboldened by his defiance

631
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:33,679
ed goes outside even further takes more

632
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:35,760
photos ducking behind trees watching the

633
00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:38,720
craft move around change colors from

634
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:41,279
orange to white and and so forth and

635
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:43,600
then they eventually leave and he does

636
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,679
something that he thinks will will help

637
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:47,760
with the situation he says earlier i had

638
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,320
mistaken the ufo hum for the pool pump

639
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:52,320
that wouldn't happen again from room to

640
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:54,000
room i checked for anything that hummed

641
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:55,919
the refrigerator unplugged it the

642
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:58,159
aquarium pump turned it off the central

643
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:00,559
heater off by the time i was through the

644
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:03,120
house was quiet satisfied i returned to

645
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:04,720
my bedroom

646
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:06,799
he's trying to eliminate all the

647
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:08,559
possible sounds of humming because the

648
00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:10,880
humming will alert him to the ufo and he

649
00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:13,279
doesn't want any false alarms but this

650
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:14,720
time this sighting was a little

651
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:16,799
different francis his wife had seen it

652
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:18,960
so she had believed him she

653
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:21,360
saw the photos she she trusted his

654
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:24,480
judgment but this was a little bit a

655
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:26,640
little bit different she said she was

656
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:28,960
terrified she was

657
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:30,880
you know concerned about ed's safety

658
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,720
when he went out to take more

659
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:34,240
photographs

660
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:35,360
so

661
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:40,720
a fourth sighting but it was around 3 30

662
00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:44,559
a.m which technically is december 3rd

663
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:47,360
but this time they see a creature when

664
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:48,960
we come back from the break

665
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:51,600
we're going to see a creature well not c

666
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:53,679
you know what i mean but we'll take a

667
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:56,400
little break now and we will return to

668
00:25:02,510 --> 00:24:59,360
ed walters francis walters and

669
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:02,520
the ufos over gulf breeze

670
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:10,390
next time we're staying on gulf breeze

671
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,240
this is i was envisioning two parts it

672
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:14,480
might be more i don't know it's it's fun

673
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:16,960
it's a it's a wild story

674
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,360
thanks for your feedback and and your

675
00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:21,360
comments and your your kind words about

676
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:23,279
our fifth anniversary and our fifth

677
00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:25,919
anniversary episode last time one bit of

678
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:27,600
an update one of you asked a question

679
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:30,480
about the first alien hybrid and i

680
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:34,320
completely blanked on it and uh

681
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:37,360
as as i knew would happen one of uh our

682
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:39,919
erudite listeners got in touch uh martin

683
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:43,200
kottmeyer sent me a whole list of uh of

684
00:25:48,149 --> 00:25:45,279
early hybrid sort of the pre-abduction

685
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:48,159
era hybrids and when i saw cynthia

686
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:50,320
appleton's name as one of the earliest

687
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:52,880
ones in the 1950s that of course you

688
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:54,320
know triggered in me the memory of

689
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:57,200
elizabeth claire from south africa who

690
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,400
who had a child with akon the spaceman

691
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:02,400
and we i think we covered elizabeth

692
00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:05,600
claire's story on our our fourth episode

693
00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:07,360
i think that was the first one the

694
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:09,600
saucer wife appeared on so go back into

695
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:11,440
the archives and check out elizabeth

696
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:14,000
clara's story for um

697
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:16,480
for the first alien human

698
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:18,720
hybrid or at least one of the earliest i

699
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:20,799
have ever encountered

700
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:22,799
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703
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704
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705
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:34,960
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706
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,360
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707
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,600
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708
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:42,000
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709
00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:43,919
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710
00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:45,840
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711
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:48,400
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712
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:50,799
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713
00:27:01,350 --> 00:27:00,230
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714
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:01,360
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715
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:04,159
address during this midway segment um

716
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:06,880
on the subsequent episodes so if you

717
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,919
have any questions about what we're

718
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:09,520
doing with gulf breeze so far where we

719
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:11,919
might be going in the future be sure to

720
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:14,559
let us know those for right now though

721
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:17,279
let's go back to florida i mean for

722
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:18,799
those of you who aren't there already i

723
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:20,000
think we've got some listeners in

724
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:21,600
florida but anyway

725
00:27:24,350 --> 00:27:22,399
back

726
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:24,360
down to florida

727
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:32,789
so it's a few hours later it's 3 30 a.m

728
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:35,840
and ed and francis are in bed

729
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,799
and then

730
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:38,559
the dog barks

731
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:40,159
ed wakes up

732
00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:42,320
he goes to the window he opens up the

733
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:43,279
blinds

734
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,640
he looks out

735
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,320
there's a small creature just on the

736
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:48,480
other side of the glass they're inches

737
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:50,159
away from each other

738
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,110
the creature just stood there staring in

739
00:28:02,310 --> 00:27:59,760
at me it was maybe four feet tall

740
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,320
a dark grayish black box-like thing hid

741
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:04,320
most of its body the helmet over its

742
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,000
head had a clear insert that revealed

743
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:08,159
its eyes really big eyes that cover the

744
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:10,480
top half of its head it grasped the

745
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:17,029
by this time francis is awake and has

746
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,480
seen the creature as well she is

747
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:20,399
actually closer to the creature she's

748
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:23,200
crawling across the bed towards ed he

749
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,880
has the piston in his hand he points it

750
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:26,720
at the creature he says i'm not going to

751
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:30,480
shoot it unless tries to get in ed says

752
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:31,679
the creature

753
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:34,000
looked at him fearlessly

754
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:34,960
and then

755
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:36,720
it just turned around

756
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:43,430
anger swept through me

757
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:45,279
that little bastard that just scared me

758
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:46,640
out of my mind and now i was just gonna

759
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,120
walk away the hell with that i wanted

760
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:51,200
him i scrambled from the floor and got

761
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:53,039
back to the door in a few steps the

762
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:54,399
deadbolt and passage lock were

763
00:28:57,909 --> 00:28:55,840
impossible to operate without putting

764
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:57,919
the camera and gun on the floor first i

765
00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:59,600
unlocked the door and without picking up

766
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,919
either of them ran onto the porch the

767
00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:03,600
creature was steadily moving across the

768
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:05,679
deck and toward the stairs i was about

769
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:08,159
20 feet behind intent on capturing it

770
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:09,919
moving as slowly as it was i could catch

771
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:12,080
it in no time i'd throw a body block and

772
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:13,520
drag the little critter back into the

773
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:15,679
house i pushed open the screen door and

774
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:18,240
took two steps onto the wooden deck bang

775
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,399
the blue beam angled down from the sky

776
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:22,799
my right leg from the knee down was hit

777
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:24,880
frozen like it was nailed to the floor

778
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:27,440
being squeezed i fell my forward

779
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:29,360
momentum made me pull and twist my knee

780
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:31,600
as i fell my right leg was stuck in

781
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,640
place i screamed francis ran onto

782
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:36,320
the porch to help me and i yelled at her

783
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:37,520
to get back

784
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,600
the blue beam began to lift my leg and

785
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:41,840
pull me out from under the roofed porch

786
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:43,440
i leaned back and grabbed the screen

787
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:45,679
door jamb as i leaned back i was looking

788
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:48,080
straight up into the bottom of the ufo

789
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,240
it was maybe 50 feet up with beam just

790
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,399
clearing the eave the sight was enough

791
00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:54,000
to make me shudder and i almost lost my

792
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:56,000
grip on the door jam no wonder the

793
00:29:59,909 --> 00:29:58,000
creature was in no hurry to get away its

794
00:30:02,710 --> 00:29:59,919
buddies were there maybe this was all a

795
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:02,720
trick to get me outside if it was it

796
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:05,039
worked my left foot tipped into the blue

797
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:07,200
beam as i tried to pull myself away i

798
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:08,799
felt the pressure on my toes and it

799
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:11,120
wrenched it away i jerked wildly but my

800
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,960
right leg stayed fast in the beam

801
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,880
francis held me from behind i pulled

802
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:17,120
harder slowly and steadily my leg came

803
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:20,080
out i was free the blue beam disappeared

804
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:22,000
and the craft hovered toward the field

805
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:23,279
the creature had gone across the

806
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:24,880
backfield i heard it go through the

807
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:27,039
chain-link gate in our fence i scrambled

808
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:29,200
to get my camera by the time i got back

809
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:30,799
with the polaroid the craft was near the

810
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,200
trees suddenly the blue beam shot down

811
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:35,120
to the ground no way to see the creature

812
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:36,640
but i figured they were picking up the

813
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,149
so there are a couple of things going on

814
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,559
here we've got a creature and it's not a

815
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:48,960
gray except for the big black eyes it's

816
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:52,080
not um it's not really a gray it's or if

817
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:53,760
it's a gray it's a gray wearing this

818
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:56,799
weird blocky suit of armor carrying a

819
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,840
silver rod and ed says at another point

820
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:01,679
in the book that he says it's a silver

821
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:03,519
rod not because that's the color of the

822
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:06,320
rod but because it in his words glowed

823
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:09,279
silver we also have the blue beam

824
00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:11,600
grabbing him and pulling him up into the

825
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:13,600
ship but he's able to resist it by

826
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:16,000
hanging onto the door jamb and

827
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:18,799
and his wife francis sort of holding on

828
00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:20,480
to him and

829
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:23,360
that i mean the beam must not be

830
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:26,159
very strong if he can just

831
00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:29,760
hang on now he talks about photo 11 if

832
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:31,519
we look at photo 11 or if i look at

833
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:33,120
photo 11

834
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:35,919
in both the both the regular one and the

835
00:31:40,389 --> 00:31:38,000
light blasted and enhanced for detail

836
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:40,399
enlarged version you see a craft that

837
00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:43,360
looks sort of flying sorcery and

838
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:46,159
you do see a beam

839
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:47,120
much

840
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:49,760
more faint in the unenhanced version you

841
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:51,919
do see a beam going down to the ground

842
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:54,480
and that beam is blue

843
00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:55,600
and

844
00:32:00,070 --> 00:31:58,000
again i'm not casting aspersions i'm not

845
00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:00,080
making judgments but it looks really

846
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:02,559
fake to me it it just does

847
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:04,399
i'm not saying all the photos of the

848
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:07,679
ufos look fake i just think the ones

849
00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,880
that show a large amount of detail look

850
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:12,480
kind of fake but what's interesting

851
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:15,600
about it and i'm not an optical

852
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:17,679
physicist like the people like bruce

853
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:20,559
mcabee who authenticated these photos

854
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,039
but my question is

855
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:25,360
in what way how

856
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:28,559
how does how does light work um that's

857
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,799
kind of my question how does light work

858
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:32,799
how does the the beam

859
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:35,279
this tractor beam sort of

860
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:38,880
engage in a a visual spectrum

861
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:42,080
to look blue to the human eye how would

862
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:46,080
that translate to a polaroid lens and a

863
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:47,840
film what i'm saying is why does there

864
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:49,679
have to be a visible

865
00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:52,240
aspect to this light beam

866
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:54,960
in the first place

867
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:57,120
if i was doing this i'm not saying this

868
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,799
is you know something i would do and i'm

869
00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:00,720
not saying that anybody faked anything

870
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:02,799
but if i were faking something like this

871
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:05,679
i would say there was an invisible force

872
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:07,360
that was pulling me towards the ship i

873
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:10,559
would not say it was blue i would not

874
00:33:15,269 --> 00:33:13,600
attempt to photograph a blue beam i

875
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:15,279
would just kind of

876
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:17,200
be chill about it and say hey why would

877
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:20,559
it have to be visible so this is this is

878
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:21,760
interesting and at the end of the

879
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:24,480
chapter we do have uh we we do have um

880
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:27,120
francis's account of this and and she

881
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:28,000
tells

882
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:31,519
unsurprisingly the uh the

883
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,480
same story ed does and you know a little

884
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:36,320
more terror as she's holding on to him

885
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:40,080
as he's being tugged up toward the ship

886
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,840
this was her first experience the blue

887
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,000
beam she said and it terrified me if the

888
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:46,480
ufo had waited the fire ed's entire body

889
00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:48,080
would have been caught again would they

890
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:49,760
have taken him or had they just wanted

891
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:52,000
to keep him from following the creature

892
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:53,679
so that's the question was he being

893
00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:55,919
abducted or was he just

894
00:34:01,830 --> 00:33:59,120
sort of being deterred from hunting down

895
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:01,840
the little guy so again that encounter

896
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:03,840
was on the early morning about 3 30 a.m

897
00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:07,600
on december 3rd 1987.

898
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:10,079
also on december 3rd the gulf breeze

899
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:11,919
sentinel released an edition with some

900
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:14,960
letters to the editor that describe some

901
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:19,040
ufo encounters in the same area but that

902
00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:21,200
aren't from ed walters so these are

903
00:34:26,069 --> 00:34:23,679
these are additional sightings and some

904
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:26,079
of them from even earlier such as this

905
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,990
dear editor i am very relieved to see

906
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:34,000
the ufo photos they looked just like the

907
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:37,040
photos enclosed that i took last june 86

908
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:38,720
i never showed mine to anybody for fear

909
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:40,960
of ridicule they were taken with a 35

910
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:42,879
millimeter after dusk facing west and

911
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:45,359
shoreline park south it came from behind

912
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,200
the north trees very fast and then

913
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:49,440
stopped perfectly still it stayed there

914
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,200
for five or six seconds before flashing

915
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,200
off to the north and out of my sight it

916
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:55,040
happened so fast that i doubted what i

917
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,879
had seen the film came back from the

918
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:58,800
developer with no prints of the object

919
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,160
but then i checked the negatives and

920
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,000
there it was the developer had not

921
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,320
printed them thinking they were too dark

922
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,480
like the other person i too don't need

923
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:08,400
the headaches that this can bring so i

924
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:11,359
withhold my name

925
00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:13,599
i've got a scan of this story with the

926
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:16,160
photo from june of 1986 and it's pretty

927
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:19,839
grainy and difficult to see however it

928
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:23,440
is reprinted in full color in uh walters

929
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,839
book and this is supposedly taken by

930
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:27,839
somebody who says named jane in quotes

931
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:31,280
not her real name and this

932
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:34,000
photograph looks remarkably like the

933
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:36,960
ones that walters took it's not a

934
00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:39,680
polaroid this is a 35 millimeter photo

935
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,599
but you've got the same sort of round

936
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:43,200
craft with a little dome at the top and

937
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:45,119
lights on the bottom there's no blue

938
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:47,200
tinge it's more of an orange or amber

939
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:49,520
tinge to the lights but like i said

940
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:51,200
earlier i wonder some of the color

941
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:52,640
variations

942
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:55,760
in here might be the quality of the film

943
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:58,800
the old polaroid film for example there

944
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:00,800
was another letter to the editor that

945
00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:02,560
has a sighting that took place at the

946
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,040
same time that walter's initial sighting

947
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:10,630
dear ufo cider my husband and i feel you

948
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:13,040
are not alone however i'm not sure if we

949
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:15,440
saw the same thing it was about 5 30 to

950
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:17,839
6 30 that evening we were in our car the

951
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:19,920
object was overhead at first we thought

952
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:21,440
it might be a plane or helicopter

953
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:22,960
however when we rolled down the window

954
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:25,200
of the car we heard no noise did you

955
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,680
hear a noise from it was it between 5 30

956
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:30,000
and 6 30 wednesday evening i remember my

957
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:32,079
husband saying when we saw it that's not

958
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:33,920
a plane no plane can stay still like

959
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:36,560
that and it did just bob up and down he

960
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:38,240
said it wasn't a helicopter for it made

961
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:40,320
no noise he rolled down the window and

962
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:42,400
stuck out his head i said get your head

963
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:45,119
in for if it is a ufo it may zap us up

964
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:46,720
we laughed and said if we told anyone

965
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:48,640
they would take us away in white jackets

966
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:50,160
we thought it may be from the air force

967
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:52,240
also but we doubted it please let us

968
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:54,640
know if yours made noise signed

969
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,200
anonymous

970
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:59,040
there was also a statement from the

971
00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:00,720
editorial side of things they said in

972
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:02,320
the past two weeks the sentinel has been

973
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:04,160
monitoring local ufo sightings many

974
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:05,760
centering around an object photographed

975
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:08,160
november 11th by a gulf breeze resident

976
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,359
since the publishing of the three

977
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,359
pictures on november 19th another photo

978
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:12,960
taken last year of a similar object has

979
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:14,800
been submitted to the paper and is shown

980
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:17,200
below we are having all photos analyzed

981
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,119
by experts and will publish results as

982
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:21,040
they become available readers are

983
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:22,880
encouraged to continue sending all

984
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:26,240
reports to the sentinel so the newspaper

985
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:28,240
is sort of seeing they've got something

986
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:31,839
going on here that is uh is pretty

987
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:34,079
pretty impressive and is is garnering

988
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:37,760
lots of engagement from the uh from from

989
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:40,400
their readers in ed walters book he

990
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:42,560
talks about how after these sort of

991
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:45,200
corroborating reports begin to

992
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,240
circulate local news begins to uh begins

993
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:50,640
to get involved they have other people

994
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:51,920
coming forward saying things they're

995
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:54,160
talking to photographic experts who

996
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:56,240
verify that it's very difficult to fake

997
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:58,960
things with polaroid photos since the

998
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:01,040
polaroid it's developed right there

999
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:02,560
you've got all the the emulsion and

1000
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:04,400
everything sort of there

1001
00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:05,119
in

1002
00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:28,640
to wake the rest of the family goes out

1003
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:30,880
to the kitchen he's making coffee

1004
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:32,960
looks out the window the ufo is there

1005
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:34,960
but it's different he says it's bigger

1006
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,119
that was pretty much it he says it was

1007
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:39,599
different really different it was bigger

1008
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:42,079
so that is his description he goes

1009
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:43,839
outside he gets you know a gun in the

1010
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,680
camera um goes outside and it's higher

1011
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:49,440
in the air it's hovering it's above the

1012
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:50,560
trees

1013
00:39:01,750 --> 00:38:58,710
do not resist

1014
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:01,760
stay where you are you are in danger we

1015
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,030
i turned and ran back into the house

1016
00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:09,599
thinking won't harm me my ass right i

1017
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:11,200
know all about your blue light and i'm

1018
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:13,520
not interested i know what it can do

1019
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:15,200
i hadn't said anything but the voyance

1020
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,000
answered zejas this was more of a sound

1021
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:20,640
than a name we have come for you

1022
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,440
the ufo hovered slowly across the field

1023
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:26,000
once again very low to the ground by now

1024
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,520
i figured that everybody on my street

1025
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:29,440
would have seen the ufo surely someone

1026
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:31,280
had called the police

1027
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:32,480
the voice

1028
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:34,160
no

1029
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:42,160
i watched them from under the big porch

1030
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:44,800
roof no way was i going to budge

1031
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:46,400
i should have taken more photos but i

1032
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,920
was afraid to cover my eyes with the

1033
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:50,000
camera afraid to take my eyes off it as

1034
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:52,079
it moved closer finally i pointed the

1035
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:55,200
pistol at the ufo i yelled i'll shoot

1036
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:57,760
my voice didn't come out right again

1037
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:00,160
i'll shoot the words echoed as if they

1038
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:02,320
were in a pipe

1039
00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:03,599
no

1040
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:05,119
step forward

1041
00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:07,280
screw you come and get me

1042
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:09,440
flash they were gone

1043
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:11,200
again straight up

1044
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:13,040
i went back into the house quietly

1045
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:14,560
closing the door behind me questions

1046
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:16,480
racing through my head what the hell did

1047
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:18,240
they want from me why all these cryptic

1048
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:21,200
messages when would all of this be over

1049
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:23,040
the ufo voice actually seemed to be

1050
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,400
calling me by name not my name but zejas

1051
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:28,640
whatever that was the voice was clear

1052
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:31,680
when it said zahas we have come for you

1053
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:37,349
unsurprisingly ed is getting kind of

1054
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:39,280
concerned now that there is a clear

1055
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,880
indication that the aliens are coming

1056
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:43,200
for him in particular and that his

1057
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:44,560
neighbors apparently aren't able to see

1058
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:47,599
this and aren't able to call the police

1059
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:48,640
he says

1060
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:50,720
that his mind whirled with confusion he

1061
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:54,000
felt sick and he had to get help somehow

1062
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:56,880
now francis's account of this particular

1063
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:58,560
encounter is

1064
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,200
honestly like many of francis's accounts

1065
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:03,599
in for some of these early sightings

1066
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:05,040
not

1067
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:11,280
corroborating

1068
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:14,079
ed's story necessarily but interesting

1069
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:15,839
from the point of view of

1070
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:18,319
she is there she's helping manage the

1071
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:19,760
household they've got two kids in high

1072
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:21,920
school their son is is you know taking

1073
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,079
the sats or whatever and getting ready

1074
00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:26,640
to you know go off to college and you

1075
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:28,960
know the the kids grades are slipping

1076
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:31,680
the ufo stuff is stressing out the whole

1077
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:35,040
family so we get that side of the story

1078
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,760
which is pretty interesting and i'd love

1079
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,040
to know if

1080
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:41,280
the kids who were teenagers at the time

1081
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,319
and and

1082
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:44,800
obviously not now um what if they've

1083
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,640
written anything about this i haven't

1084
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:48,640
found anything but if it's out there i'm

1085
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:51,119
sure somebody will point it out by this

1086
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,400
time it's almost mid-december of 1987

1087
00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:56,560
and more witnesses are coming forward

1088
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,960
reporting sightings of things not

1089
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:00,319
entirely

1090
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:03,359
unlike what uh what ed and francis had

1091
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:06,880
seen on december 17th the francis's have

1092
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:09,520
their sixth sighting again

1093
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:13,280
awakened or aroused by strange noises

1094
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:14,880
sounds

1095
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:18,160
premonitions ed goes outside he's got

1096
00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:20,960
his camera he is going to see

1097
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:24,000
the craft he's going to take pictures of

1098
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:25,839
it

1099
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,760
as he opens his eyes

1100
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:29,520
to the side of his bed

1101
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:31,839
are three dark figures

1102
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:33,280
there's a street light coming in

1103
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,599
illuminating them

1104
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:37,520
he can't talk

1105
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:38,640
but then

1106
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:40,480
they're gone he's dizzy

1107
00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:42,720
he gets up he goes outside

1108
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,359
to take pictures francis comes out with

1109
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:47,520
them he runs out of film as he's taking

1110
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:49,359
pictures of a craft she brings him more

1111
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:50,240
film

1112
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:52,160
he gets zapped by the beam but it

1113
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:55,119
doesn't affect him too deeply and one

1114
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:56,640
interesting thing about this craft this

1115
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:59,920
is another one of the larger ones

1116
00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:02,160
from the light underneath some liquid

1117
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:04,400
comes out and falls to the ground and ed

1118
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:07,280
said he got some in a butter container

1119
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:08,880
and he was going to

1120
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:10,319
save it for

1121
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:14,319
future analysis so this is more of a

1122
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:17,599
low-key sighting as low-key as these get

1123
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:20,480
but one thing that strikes me about

1124
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:22,720
these encounters and i'm not saying

1125
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:24,000
anything about the veracity of the

1126
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:25,440
photographs we'll talk about the

1127
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:27,280
veracity of the photographs

1128
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:28,640
in the future

1129
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:30,720
it is astonishing to me

1130
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:32,960
that in the

1131
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:34,000
terror

1132
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:38,960
and horror and confusion and fear

1133
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:41,839
that ed walters is undergoing while

1134
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:44,319
seeing these craft while being

1135
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,359
zapped at by beams while seeing strange

1136
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:49,280
creatures next to his bed and hearing

1137
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,680
conversations in spanish and

1138
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,440
being told that his name apparently is

1139
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:56,000
zahas and they have come for him that

1140
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:57,680
he's still able

1141
00:44:02,790 --> 00:43:59,680
to snap off

1142
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:02,800
fairly clear fairly well composed

1143
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:05,920
photographs of the craft while all this

1144
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:09,680
is going on i think this is absolutely

1145
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,319
remarkable um it's it's an amazing

1146
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,240
astounding thing again not being

1147
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:16,240
sarcastic i i'm thinking

1148
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,040
if this is what happened then

1149
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:21,119
his equanimity

1150
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,480
in the face of the unknown is fairly

1151
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:26,160
admirable

1152
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:29,040
one thing that continues to come through

1153
00:44:34,829 --> 00:44:32,319
in these encounters is ed's insistence

1154
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:34,839
on at least portraying himself in the

1155
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,720
book as a a very kind of well like i

1156
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:40,400
said before he's a tough guy

1157
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,599
you know he's

1158
00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:43,680
he's you know

1159
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,440
slinging some profanity at the space

1160
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:47,200
people and he's being defiant and he's

1161
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:48,720
taking pictures whether they want him to

1162
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:51,280
or not um but uh

1163
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,440
it's it's interesting i i think it's

1164
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:55,119
interesting and we are getting to an

1165
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:58,000
interesting part of the story as we come

1166
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:01,440
to the close of this first part of our

1167
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:04,960
gulf breeze ufo sighting series of

1168
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,640
episodes because we are getting into the

1169
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:08,400
portion of the story

1170
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,160
very soon here where the investigation

1171
00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:14,480
begins to pick up

1172
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:18,160
the pace and the mutual ufo network

1173
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:21,280
begins to get involved it begins on

1174
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,040
december 27th 1987. in the chapter this

1175
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:27,520
is titled the preliminary investigation

1176
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:31,200
and donald ware the state director of

1177
00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:39,109
late in the day donald ware brought me a

1178
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:40,880
copy of the report he intended to file

1179
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,880
with mufon it contained copies of the

1180
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:44,640
first five photos measurements of the

1181
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,240
site where they had been taken and the

1182
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:48,319
information i had given them

1183
00:45:52,309 --> 00:45:49,839
from mr x

1184
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:52,319
donald told me to ask mr x to review the

1185
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:54,480
report for accuracy there was a certain

1186
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:56,960
look in his eyes the i know that you are

1187
00:46:02,950 --> 00:45:59,440
really mr x look he didn't say anything

1188
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:02,960
more just gave me the report and left

1189
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:04,560
i skimmed the pages picking up a word

1190
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:06,319
here and there then dropped the report

1191
00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:08,480
on my desk i'd read it later now i

1192
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:10,319
wasn't in the mood i didn't want to get

1193
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,319
all the ufo information churning in my

1194
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:14,480
head

1195
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,079
you know it's always a strange

1196
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:18,079
experience for me when somebody gives me

1197
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:20,240
the i know you are really mr x look what

1198
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:22,640
kind of look is that i i just there's a

1199
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,400
i think there's a better way that he

1200
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:26,640
could have phrased it so ed is is

1201
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:28,560
getting kind of overwhelmed

1202
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,240
by all of this stuff

1203
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:32,160
going on he doesn't know why there's now

1204
00:46:36,870 --> 00:46:35,040
a different kind of ufo there why are

1205
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:36,880
they after him

1206
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:38,880
he closes his office door he's wrapping

1207
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:40,960
a christmas present for francis and a

1208
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:43,839
soft ringing starts in his head this is

1209
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:46,480
different from a typical ringing in the

1210
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:48,640
ears it's a lower pitch it started to

1211
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:52,079
get louder until it became that hum

1212
00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:59,750
at first i sat at my desk and looked out

1213
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:01,760
the window searching for any strange

1214
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:05,200
glow in the sky nothing i left my office

1215
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,880
i calmly crossed through the living room

1216
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,720
so as not to disturb my daughter smiling

1217
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:10,720
at her as i passed if i panicked she

1218
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:12,240
would follow me and become even more

1219
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:13,920
frightened of the ufo than she already

1220
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,119
was

1221
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:17,280
i went out onto the backyard steadied

1222
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:18,400
myself against one of the wooden

1223
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:21,119
windscreens and watched the sky

1224
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:23,680
the hum was really rolling now i felt as

1225
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:25,520
if my brain was vibrating from the force

1226
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,079
of it my son dan stuck his head out the

1227
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:30,240
back door and asked if i was okay i

1228
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:32,880
tried to appear calm as i replied sure

1229
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:34,880
no problem just looking at the pool

1230
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:37,599
water we need to vacuum the bottom

1231
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:39,040
i knew that all i had to say was pool

1232
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:41,280
vacuum and dan would disappear

1233
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:42,880
he went back inside and i wanted to grab

1234
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:45,200
my head and scream the hum pressed deep

1235
00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:48,000
into my head if it didn't stop what then

1236
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:50,079
five minutes passed the home was like a

1237
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:52,640
siren pulsing with its high low pitch

1238
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:54,400
the last time the hum had done this the

1239
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:56,160
ufo dropped from the sky and the voice

1240
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:58,000
demanded that i stepped forward i was

1241
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,440
sweating what if they were going to do

1242
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:01,520
this until i broke down nobody could

1243
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,280
live with this vibration constantly

1244
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:05,520
squeezing and throbbing in their head i

1245
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:06,800
thought about getting in the truck and

1246
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:08,400
trying to drive farther away from it but

1247
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:09,839
i realized i wouldn't even know which

1248
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:11,119
way to go

1249
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:12,880
another four minutes passed and suddenly

1250
00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:15,200
the home stopped i slumped down and sat

1251
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:16,559
at the edge of the wooden deck with the

1252
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:19,040
dog at my feet my shirt was wet and i

1253
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:20,480
could feel the sweat running down my

1254
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:22,960
back i was cold and wanted just to go to

1255
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:26,079
sleep the hum lasted about 10 minutes

1256
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:27,599
the next day i discovered that during

1257
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:30,000
the same time a man calling himself

1258
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:32,720
believer bill had taken nine photographs

1259
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:35,040
of three ufos he had seen less than two

1260
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:40,150
and we're going to pick things up with

1261
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:42,319
believer bill and his experiences and of

1262
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:45,280
course more sightings by the walters

1263
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:46,720
next time

1264
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:50,079
but as we close out this first part of

1265
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:53,440
the gulf breeze citing experience

1266
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:55,599
i just want to say that

1267
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,160
if you're wondering where the skepticism

1268
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,720
is don't worry it's coming

1269
00:49:04,670 --> 00:49:02,640
these encounters sound amazing the

1270
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,680
photos look

1271
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:06,400
fantastically

1272
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:07,359
clear

1273
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:09,119
in some cases

1274
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:11,359
but this isn't going to be an easy ride

1275
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:13,599
for ed walters and francis walters and

1276
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:15,920
those who are supportive of their

1277
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:18,400
sightings there's going to be contention

1278
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:20,480
and that contention is going to start

1279
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:22,720
kicking off next time

1280
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:24,559
but for right now you've got an idea of

1281
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:27,839
what ed and his family are going through

1282
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:30,800
the kinds of experiences he's having

1283
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:32,720
and some hints that this is more than

1284
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:35,839
just a lights in the sky sighting case

1285
00:49:40,590 --> 00:49:38,800
but it's not quite an abduction

1286
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:40,600
not yet

1287
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,790
thanks for listening remember to send in

1288
00:49:52,870 --> 00:49:50,160
your questions and comments via the

1289
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:52,880
usual social media or email channels and

1290
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:55,920
we will address them next time on the

1291
00:50:02,069 --> 00:49:59,920
show as we continue with the gulf breeze

1292
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:02,079
experience let's just call it the gulf

1293
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:03,359
breeze experience

1294
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:04,960
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1295
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,559
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1296
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:08,800
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1297
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:11,520
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